Joscha Bach is the director of research at the AI ​​Foundation, formerly at MIT and Harvard. Joscha explores the workings of the human mind, intelligence, consciousness, life on Earth, and the possibly simulated structure of our universe.

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Here are the main features of the episode. With some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp to move to that time.

00:00 – Introduction
3:14 – Reverse planning by Joscha Bach
10:38 – The nature of the truth
18:47 – Original thinking
23:14 – Sentience vs. intelligence
31:45 – Mind vs reality
46:51 – Severe problem of consciousness
51:09 – The connection between the mind and the universe
56:29 – What is consciousness
1:02:32 – Language and concepts
1:09:02 – Meta-learning
1:16:35 – Spirit
1:18:10 – Our civilization may not last long
1:37:48 – Twitter and social media
1:44:52 – Which governance systems might work well?
1:47:12 – The road to self-destruction with artificial intelligence
1:55:18 – AI that simulates people understanding their own nature
2:04:32 – Reinforcement learning
2:09:12 – Reasonable reasoning
2:15:47 – Should AGI have a body?
2:22:34 – Neuralink
2:27:01 – Reasoning on the scale of neurons and societies
2:37:16 – The role of emotions
2:48:03 – Happiness is a cookie that your brain bakes for itself


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